Answer Me This

I was recently at the ANACEFC annual conference and got to sit in on a session where as a group the leaders wrestled with many questions together. It was really refreshing to do this in an Asian setting out of a seminary context. It was also interesting as a Korean American to listen to the concerns of Chinese American pastors and church leaders. We are surprisingly similar yet with some differences. First of all, let me express my respect and admiration for my Chinese American brothers and sisters who have a greater capacity and tolerance for differences than I have witnessed in Korean settings. I was also encouraged by the presence of women at the highest levels of this conference. And lastly, as we tackled questions together, I was impressed by the presence of dialogue as a problem-solving tool even as we discussed passionately and laughed together over difficult questions.

I would like to share some of their discussion questions with you in the hope that discussion can happen here that might help us all. Please feel free to jump in…

  • How do we embrace and empower the second generation ministry?
  • Is it really necessary to delete or change the word, “Chinese” in the name of the church? Is it more appropriate to adopt the usage of term “a church of Cantonese, English and Mandarin Ministries” and avoid the term, “a church of Cantonese, English, and Mandarin congregations.
  • With respect of a church of multiple ministries, what is the role of the Senior Pastor? Give your views on the structure of pastoral staff.
  • How do we effectively resolve conflicts between pastors, boat members, and pastors, among board members, boar dan members of the church and etc.?

Reclaiming Chinese religious identity

**If you don’t listen to Speaking of Faith with Krista Tippett, you’re missing out on a top-notch podcast on religious faith. Highly recommended.**


I’d like to share the latest podcast episode from Speaking of Faith where Krista Tippett interviews Mayfair Yang, a scholar and director of the East Asian Center at UC Santa Barbara. Mayfair Yang speaks about the effects of modernity and Christian (how ironic) Western influence and its oppressive effects on the indigenous religious expressions in China.

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/2010/chinas-spiritual-landscape/

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As untouched as the turn signal in an Asian woman's car

The title of the post probably makes absolutely no sense to you, but once you see it in context I’m sure you’ll understand it. Some of you may even chuckle about it. However, I’m not sure it’s the laughter that I would find offensive. Most-likely, it is the fact that people still have the perception that it’s funny because it is rooted in truth. Before I get to explaining this further, let me take you back about 40 years. Let me share with you a tv commercial from the 1960′s about a baby that wants to eat some glape jerr-o. Again, you probably don’t get what I just described, but after watching the video below you will:

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Fellowship of American Chinese Evangelicals newsletters online

Worship services and churches for the next generation, and even English ministries, were not all that common in ethnic Asian churches back in the days.

One factor that likely contributed towards the development of English ministries within the Chinese/ Asian church was an organization called FACE, the Fellowship of American Chinese Evangelicals, which started:

… at the 1978 NACOCE [North America Congress of Chinese Evangelicals] congress, the Fellowship of American Chinese Evangelicals (FACE) was born, sounding a call for “parallel ministries” for American and Canadian born Chinese in the Chinese church. Today, American born Chinese ministries, and the broader challenge of planting Asian-American churches, are an accepted part of the ministry scene in North America. [a]

About Face
They published a quarterly newsletter from 1979 to 2003 called “About FACE”. According to the first issue, The Fellowship of American Chinese Evangelicals is a ministry established by four American-Born Chinese (ABC) participants of NACOCE and encouraged by NACOCE to enable the whole Chinese Church to be more effective in ministry to ABCs. The “About FACE” newsletters have been made available online for free download at www.mediafire.com/aboutface.

Browse this spreadsheet for an index of “About FACE” article titles, authors, and topics.

Browse through those ol’ newsletters and find historical artifacts and insights that may be quite informative to the conversations going on here. How’s that saying go: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it?

What's In A Name?

This is from a post on the great blog, dashhouse.com about dropping denominational labels. I guess my tweak on this would be to simply ask what does it mean if we were to drop the ethnic labels as well? What does it mean for us to have “Korean” or “Chinese” in the name of the church when we have very little sense of ethnic identity ourselves? I think the denominational labels reflect our own ignorance of the differences behind those labels. Perhaps we drop them to attract others, but also perhaps the omission reflects that we do not know ourselves. By the same token then, if we’re dropping our ethnic labels to make ourselves more multi-ethnic or more open, perhaps we underestimate the sense that merely being a church, regardless of what the doctrine is or what ethnicity the people are inside, has become unattractive to people who aren’t Christian. And our willingness to drop these labels just shows that we are still preoccupied with the wrong notion of church to begin with.

Here’s just a clip of the aforementioned post…

There was a trend in the 90s up until today to drop denominational labels from church names. A church would become a community church or just church period. So, in our case, we would drop Baptist and become Richview Community Church or just Richview Church.

The thinking behind this is that Baptist is a bit of a turnoff. So is Presbyterian, Alliance, Anglican, or whatever.

The problem today is that people aren\’t turned off by the type of church. They aren’t staying away because it\’s a particular type of church. It’s more that church isn’t on their radar. As Reggie McNeal said, you can build the perfect church and they still won’t come.

In fact, the labels are increasingly meaningless. They used to carry baggage; now people just aren’t sure what they even mean.

The example I use is of a vegan passing by a fast food joint. Inside the restaurant, they’re very concerned that everyone know they’re McDonalds and not Burger King. But to the vegan walking by, McDonalds is the same as Burger King. There may be differences, but the differences don’t matter to a vegan. He’s simply not interested.