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	<title>Comments on: do you know vincent chin?</title>
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	<description>the collision of faith and Asian American culture</description>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting about this. I can relate to so many of the things that you&#039;re writing about, especially when it comes to chinese churches.

For those in AA congregations, yes - I think that discussions about race are important.   I wholeheartedly agree with your statement: &quot;Why does education have to happen at church?  Because it won’t happen anywhere else for the AA community. &quot; -- however, my hope is that with this next generation (the one where WE are the parents), that we will foster open dialogue with our children so that the burden isn&#039;t only upon church leadership - to discuss, well, hard-to-discuss matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting about this. I can relate to so many of the things that you&#8217;re writing about, especially when it comes to chinese churches.</p>
<p>For those in AA congregations, yes &#8211; I think that discussions about race are important.   I wholeheartedly agree with your statement: &#8220;Why does education have to happen at church?  Because it won’t happen anywhere else for the AA community. &#8221; &#8212; however, my hope is that with this next generation (the one where WE are the parents), that we will foster open dialogue with our children so that the burden isn&#8217;t only upon church leadership &#8211; to discuss, well, hard-to-discuss matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow... moving post.  The story is heart rending and saddening at the same time.  It makes you wonder about racism and the justice system.  Anyways, I couldn&#039;t help, but be moved and angered by the lack of injustice that was carried out.

My question is:  How does an Asian American Christian put their faith 1st, when dealing with racism, and not be motivated to react in anger, when dealing with Asian American advocacy issues of racism?

I once heard someone say (with a lot of vehemence) about an alleged racist incident, &quot;you ALWAYS have to deal with racism right way and never let it go...&quot;... and it made me wonder, &quot;ALWAYS???&quot;  (I do believe there is something in Proverbs about dealing with fools and mockers who do not wish to listen to wisdom.)

I wonder what would have happened if Vincent Chin had decided to not deal with the racial slurs, and walk away?  Not to say that we should always walk away from racism and racial injustices.  But sometimes the time and place may not be the most appropriate place/time to deal with racism ... and wisdom over the situation needs to reign.

There is such a large room for error and anger when dealing with racism, and injustices in this world.  The question isn&#039;t whether one should stand up for the rights of the voiceless, and the ignored... but rather, how does one do it as a Christian?  It&#039;s a fine line.... that can sometimes be easily be blurred.  One moment, one is advocating and fighting for injustices in this world, and another moment, one is reacting in anger, retaliation and self-righteous anger and judgement.

It&#039;s a tough call.  Yes, as Christians we should fight for justice.  But let&#039;s not forget the mercy and wisdom in dealing such horrific situations as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; moving post.  The story is heart rending and saddening at the same time.  It makes you wonder about racism and the justice system.  Anyways, I couldn&#8217;t help, but be moved and angered by the lack of injustice that was carried out.</p>
<p>My question is:  How does an Asian American Christian put their faith 1st, when dealing with racism, and not be motivated to react in anger, when dealing with Asian American advocacy issues of racism?</p>
<p>I once heard someone say (with a lot of vehemence) about an alleged racist incident, &#8220;you ALWAYS have to deal with racism right way and never let it go&#8230;&#8221;&#8230; and it made me wonder, &#8220;ALWAYS???&#8221;  (I do believe there is something in Proverbs about dealing with fools and mockers who do not wish to listen to wisdom.)</p>
<p>I wonder what would have happened if Vincent Chin had decided to not deal with the racial slurs, and walk away?  Not to say that we should always walk away from racism and racial injustices.  But sometimes the time and place may not be the most appropriate place/time to deal with racism &#8230; and wisdom over the situation needs to reign.</p>
<p>There is such a large room for error and anger when dealing with racism, and injustices in this world.  The question isn&#8217;t whether one should stand up for the rights of the voiceless, and the ignored&#8230; but rather, how does one do it as a Christian?  It&#8217;s a fine line&#8230;. that can sometimes be easily be blurred.  One moment, one is advocating and fighting for injustices in this world, and another moment, one is reacting in anger, retaliation and self-righteous anger and judgement.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough call.  Yes, as Christians we should fight for justice.  But let&#8217;s not forget the mercy and wisdom in dealing such horrific situations as well.</p>
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		<title>By: sabrinachannel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I especially like your idea of reading through Zia&#039;s book - it&#039;s a great one.

5 or 6 years ago when I was staffing CBS (now AACM) I led a series of ethnic identity discussion groups.  We looked at ethnic identity in the life of Joseph, listened to AA spoken word, brought articles, talked about racism (ours and others, and social justice etc.  Good stuff.  One of the things I was most proud of was starting a culture of students taking AA studies classes and growing in ethnic identity.

And yeah, I agree with you - I believe in the role of ethnic-specific fellowships and church communities, but they have to be thinking about how to reach that particular community with the gospel (which means understanding how the gospel intersects our ethnic identity).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I especially like your idea of reading through Zia&#8217;s book &#8211; it&#8217;s a great one.</p>
<p>5 or 6 years ago when I was staffing CBS (now AACM) I led a series of ethnic identity discussion groups.  We looked at ethnic identity in the life of Joseph, listened to AA spoken word, brought articles, talked about racism (ours and others, and social justice etc.  Good stuff.  One of the things I was most proud of was starting a culture of students taking AA studies classes and growing in ethnic identity.</p>
<p>And yeah, I agree with you &#8211; I believe in the role of ethnic-specific fellowships and church communities, but they have to be thinking about how to reach that particular community with the gospel (which means understanding how the gospel intersects our ethnic identity).</p>
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		<title>By: dannyyang</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet-- thanks for the link.  i&#039;m glad they provided an mp3 of the lecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sweet&#8211; thanks for the link.  i&#8217;m glad they provided an mp3 of the lecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel K. Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel K. Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny, you&#039;re right. Our churches need to be reaching the felt needs of Asian-Americans in the name of the gospel.

Last year Bread of Life Church in Torrance hosted an Asian American conference that I wish I could have attended:
http://l2foundation.org/2008/why-god-made-you-an-asian-american

We need more churches to make commitments to teaching about these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, you&#8217;re right. Our churches need to be reaching the felt needs of Asian-Americans in the name of the gospel.</p>
<p>Last year Bread of Life Church in Torrance hosted an Asian American conference that I wish I could have attended:<br />
<a href="http://l2foundation.org/2008/why-god-made-you-an-asian-american" rel="nofollow">http://l2foundation.org/2008/why-god-made-you-an-asian-american</a></p>
<p>We need more churches to make commitments to teaching about these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Asian-American Violence Still Persists&#8230; &#171; Step By Step: Daniel K. Eng</title>
		<link>http://nextgenerasianchurch.com/2009/06/19/do-you-know-vincent-chin/comment-page-1/#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-Asian-American Violence Still Persists&#8230; &#171; Step By Step: Daniel K. Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Violence Still&#160;Persists&#8230;  Posted on June 19, 2009 by Daniel K. Eng   Thanks to Danny Yang and the Next Gener.Asian Church blog for this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Violence Still&nbsp;Persists&#8230;  Posted on June 19, 2009 by Daniel K. Eng   Thanks to Danny Yang and the Next Gener.Asian Church blog for this [...]</p>
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